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  <title type="text">sci.math Google Group</title>
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  Mathematical discussions and pursuits.
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  <updated>2008-11-20T08:59:21Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Mark Earnest</name>
  <email>gmearn...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T08:59:21Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/2fa402f3afe2a683/7e334ef6961ff888?show_docid=7e334ef6961ff888</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/2fa402f3afe2a683/7e334ef6961ff888?show_docid=7e334ef6961ff888"/>
  <title type="text">Re: planet earth is the entire universe</title>
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  Why not just imagine that you are the only one that exists, &lt;br&gt; and all of us are your dream? Isn&#39;t that easier?
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Vladimir Bondarenko</name>
  <email>v...@cybertester.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T08:55:11Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/368f78967abf672c/99e2b166328423c1?show_docid=99e2b166328423c1</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/368f78967abf672c/99e2b166328423c1?show_docid=99e2b166328423c1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: The MathWorks customers, beware. The dynamics of disappearance of our bug report from mathworks.com</title>
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  DPB&amp;gt; The worse problem is that as Vince says, you post &lt;br&gt; DPD&amp;gt; complaints as self-serving advertising and a beligerent &lt;br&gt; DPB&amp;gt; and demeaning attitude &lt;br&gt; The defects, the attitude. :) &lt;br&gt; DPB&amp;gt; and w/o the requisite supporting information to the user &lt;br&gt; DPB&amp;gt; of the _precise_ steps required to reproduce the problem.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Han de Bruijn</name>
  <email>han.debru...@dto.tudelft.nl</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T08:38:57Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/078d701c30faebed/8b52b7af5997623e?show_docid=8b52b7af5997623e</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/078d701c30faebed/8b52b7af5997623e?show_docid=8b52b7af5997623e"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Absolute Continuity</title>
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  You know that I know that THE set of rationals does not exist. &lt;br&gt; All rationals do exist but they simply do not form a set. &lt;br&gt; Han de Bruijn
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Han de Bruijn</name>
  <email>han.debru...@dto.tudelft.nl</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T08:34:31Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/078d701c30faebed/1de79be09bc07aca?show_docid=1de79be09bc07aca</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/078d701c30faebed/1de79be09bc07aca?show_docid=1de79be09bc07aca"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Absolute Continuity</title>
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  Not true. Implement + switch to extended precision and you&#39;re done. &lt;br&gt; Han de Bruijn
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>ah</name>
  <email>splifing...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T08:33:02Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/f28e0f2b2f347c6b/d2472e766ae7c4de?show_docid=d2472e766ae7c4de</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/f28e0f2b2f347c6b/d2472e766ae7c4de?show_docid=d2472e766ae7c4de"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Absolute beginning</title>
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  Not really. As with anywhere, getting to the gate is 95% of the effort.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Han de Bruijn</name>
  <email>han.debru...@dto.tudelft.nl</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T08:32:16Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/078d701c30faebed/108e8b4240064851?show_docid=108e8b4240064851</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/078d701c30faebed/108e8b4240064851?show_docid=108e8b4240064851"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Absolute Continuity</title>
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  Apart from an infinitesimal error; the rationals are _almost_ the reals. &lt;br&gt; Han de Bruijn
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Han de Bruijn</name>
  <email>han.debru...@dto.tudelft.nl</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T08:30:09Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/078d701c30faebed/d37a589151d696e2?show_docid=d37a589151d696e2</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/078d701c30faebed/d37a589151d696e2?show_docid=d37a589151d696e2"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Absolute Continuity</title>
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  Suppose a real is something that changes. Who cares ? And if people say &lt;br&gt; there is an infinitesimal distance between two subsequent reals .. &lt;br&gt; Han de Bruijn
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Han de Bruijn</name>
  <email>han.debru...@dto.tudelft.nl</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T08:25:57Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/078d701c30faebed/94b6ea56af3413d9?show_docid=94b6ea56af3413d9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/078d701c30faebed/94b6ea56af3413d9?show_docid=94b6ea56af3413d9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Absolute Continuity</title>
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  As far as I can see (on the Internet) this involves integers, not reals. &lt;br&gt; Please correct me if I&#39;m wrong. &lt;br&gt; Yes. Numerical mathematics &amp;quot;suffers&amp;quot; from &amp;quot;errors&amp;quot;. What you don&#39;t see &lt;br&gt; plus don&#39;t want is that these &amp;quot;errors&amp;quot; are already there in theoretical &lt;br&gt; mathematics as well, infinitesimally. But ah, you shall deem the latter
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Han de Bruijn</name>
  <email>han.debru...@dto.tudelft.nl</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T08:15:26Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/3e6dce0016945835/bb8a52920a02791a?show_docid=bb8a52920a02791a</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/3e6dce0016945835/bb8a52920a02791a?show_docid=bb8a52920a02791a"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A consideration concerning the diagonal argument of G. Cantor</title>
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  Not a great question. Just an incredible time lag of nowadays science. &lt;br&gt; Okay. It cannot be repeated enough that Continuous and Discrete are just &lt;br&gt; two ways of looking at the _same_ thing. There are continuous as well as &lt;br&gt; discrete models of e.g. an ideal gas. Both are equally valid, consistent &lt;br&gt; with each other. It depends on your objectives which of the two you are
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Androcles</name>
  <email>headmas...@hogwarts.physics</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T08:11:47Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/87df5cd9e283c652/b3d0d1094a4c2463?show_docid=b3d0d1094a4c2463</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/87df5cd9e283c652/b3d0d1094a4c2463?show_docid=b3d0d1094a4c2463"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Deep variable factoring method</title>
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  He&#39;s not that &amp;quot;perfect&amp;quot;.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>WM</name>
  <email>mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T08:09:25Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/58d3f06552d69aa9/29f36edc8329bfa4?show_docid=29f36edc8329bfa4</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/58d3f06552d69aa9/29f36edc8329bfa4?show_docid=29f36edc8329bfa4"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Why &quot;meta diagonals&quot; are irrelevant</title>
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  Unless you can unanimously understand what it means to distinguish &lt;br&gt; elements, you are not able to discuss topics of set theory. You know: &lt;br&gt; A set is an assembly of well distinguishable elements, according to &lt;br&gt; Cantor. &lt;br&gt; But I see that you want to play your usual tricks in order to escape a &lt;br&gt; serious discussion. I am tired of that.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>WM</name>
  <email>mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T08:04:42Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/58d3f06552d69aa9/2fc04857b42b0c0c?show_docid=2fc04857b42b0c0c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/58d3f06552d69aa9/2fc04857b42b0c0c?show_docid=2fc04857b42b0c0c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Why &quot;meta diagonals&quot; are irrelevant</title>
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  It is potential infinity, that is always finite but not limited - &lt;br&gt; unlimited, so to say. &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;Uncountable&amp;quot; is only a logical fallacy, it has nothing to do with &lt;br&gt; quantities. &lt;br&gt; The finite set of all anti-diagonals that ever are constructed is &lt;br&gt; uncountably, for instance. &lt;br&gt; Regards, WM
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>WM</name>
  <email>mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T08:01:16Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/58d3f06552d69aa9/0cfd0bc20af74a26?show_docid=0cfd0bc20af74a26</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/58d3f06552d69aa9/0cfd0bc20af74a26?show_docid=0cfd0bc20af74a26"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Why &quot;meta diagonals&quot; are irrelevant</title>
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  Explain it in terms of the possibility to draw a path with pencil and &lt;br&gt; paper. &lt;br&gt; There is an edge connecting preserving continuity. &lt;br&gt; Discontinuities of 1 can be tolerated. Call that being quasi- &lt;br&gt; continuous. &lt;br&gt; As usual, you have understood nothing. &lt;br&gt; Regards, WM
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Bart Goddard</name>
  <email>goddar...@netscape.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T07:41:12Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/036f4eb048658142/1c3d5edb35e83a7d?show_docid=1c3d5edb35e83a7d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/036f4eb048658142/1c3d5edb35e83a7d?show_docid=1c3d5edb35e83a7d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Factoring question</title>
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  William Elliot &amp;lt;ma...@rdrop.remove.com&amp;gt; wrote in &lt;br&gt; I don&#39;t think it takes telepathy to understand the question, &lt;br&gt; unless I have yet another super power of which I was unaware. &lt;br&gt; Note that n - phi(n) = p+q-1. So that p+q = n-phi(n) +1. &lt;br&gt; From (p-q)^2 = (p+q)^2 - 4 pq, we get p-q = sqrt( (p+q)^2 - 4n). &lt;br&gt; We have all the values on the rhs of these equation, so solve
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <email>tjen...@uni-klu.ac.at</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T07:38:30Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/58d3f06552d69aa9/3346a2b0b59fabfa?show_docid=3346a2b0b59fabfa</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/58d3f06552d69aa9/3346a2b0b59fabfa?show_docid=3346a2b0b59fabfa"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Why &quot;meta diagonals&quot; are irrelevant</title>
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  You can formulate and prove in ZF the statement &lt;br&gt; that ZF has a countable model? That is quite an &lt;br&gt; interesting point. &lt;br&gt; If you look at the binary tree, it is rather a &lt;br&gt; tangible object. If you want, you can draw it up in &lt;br&gt; entirety. Each node has a number from which you can &lt;br&gt; calculate and assign it a pair of position coordinates.
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