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Re: Doorbell always uses electricity!

the-daring-du...@wtf.net (The Daring Dufas) — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:22:50 UT

Dang! Nobody seemed to get the little dig at Jeff.
What you will find are 6, 8, 10, 12, 16 and 24 volts
AC. Some really old stuff will be DC dry cell powered
but only if the owner wants to keep it original for
nostalgic or antique collecting purposes. Most of the
doorbell transformers I install have triple taps for

Re: How you can save fuel and the environment

lpog...@hotmail.com (Lou) — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:09:01 UT

messagenews:df6Vk.21905$9Z6.1318@newsfe01.iad...
And engineers, apparently. I routinely see enough confusion of usuage to
make me think most people consider the two words synonymous.
Well, duh. Isn't that implicit in the definition - "to produce . . ."?
Indeed it is not. And none of this fuss over the title page alters the

Re: Doorbell always uses electricity!

the-daring-du...@wtf.net (The Daring Dufas) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:58:00 UT

I consider myself to be an actinic sphincter.
It sounds more professional. People who know
my mother call me SOB.
TDD

Re: Do you want your tax money to pay a forklift operator $103,000.00 a year

truthtel...@nospam.net — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:57:10 UT

The problem is a Big 3 management failure. Not a worker failure.
Furthermore, you are using the total per hour labor cost that is given
out. That includes current workers and retirees. Using it as a current
worker number -- as you guys are doing, is spinning the facts to suite the
nonsense.
The problem will not be changed by whining.

Re: DVR won't work with cable unplugged, just an FYI

bobnos...@gmail.com (Bob F) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:41:38 UT

My computer with BeyondTV and 3 tuner cards has no such limitations.

Re: Do you want your tax money to pay a forklift operator $103,000.00 a year

petergrif...@drunkinclam.com (clams_casino) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:36:48 UT

Hint - UAW -
[link]
Most of the Big Three's UAW workers' compensation comes as benefits, not
cash. These affluent wages and benefits prevent the Detroit automakers
from successfully competing.
The average private sector worker earned $25.36 an hour in 2006--$17.91

Re: Doorbell always uses electricity!

xyme...@suds.com (KLS) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:17:04 UT

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:52:28 -0600, Jim Redelfs
Nice idea, but there are situations where that just won't suffice:
what about people who live up on the third floor of a big house, or
who are deaf and need lights to flash when someone rings?

Re: Do you want your tax money to pay a forklift operator $103,000.00 a year

truthtel...@nospam.net — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:13:12 UT

I read it goober. It did not state there $103K per year -- unskilled
laborers -- causing the problem. And that point is what the thread is
about.
In <f74263a1-75dc-431a-b188-f8519 3bd1...@h20g2000yqn.googlegrou ps.com>, on
11/21/2008
at 01:51 PM, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> said:

Re: Do you want your tax money to pay a forklift operator $103,000.00 a year

truthtel...@nospam.net — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:13:13 UT

Run along son. You are cherry-picking the info and putting your spin on
it. That does not make it factual.
I could detail it for you, but you're here to troll -- not think.
In <bZFVk.390159$TT4.159184@attbi _s22>, on 11/21/2008
at 09:44 PM, "Fred Lorenzen" <fearless-freddie-SpaMe...@mch si.com>

Re: Do you want your tax money to pay a forklift operator $103,000.00 a year

blackwater-evangal...@testland.net (BE-VA) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:51:59 UT

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:57:39 -0800 (PST), Daniel
Never the less he is what you said is an unskilled worker because, in
most modern day aircraft, the pilot is only there to make sure that
the take-off and landing are performed properly. Everything else is
done by the machine.

Re: Doorbell always uses electricity!

pet...@hipson.net (PeterD) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:47:05 UT

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:47:24 -0600, The Daring Dufas
You're still an asshole...

Re: Do you want your tax money to pay a forklift operator $103,000.00 a year

sabot12...@hotmail.com (Daniel) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:51:44 UT

So you didn't read it. Typical dumbshit.

Re: Do you want your tax money to pay a forklift operator $103,000.00 a year

fearless-freddie-spame...@mchsi.com (Fred Lorenzen) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:44:39 UT

the
told
business
labor.
@ TruthTel...@nospam.net,
Besides not being able to read you also are unable to hear and/or
listen. During both the Senate (Banking) and House (Financial Services)
committee hearings UAW president Ron Gettelfinger was heavily criticized
for UAW’s General Motors/Ford/Chrysler high labor cost which is over

Re: DVR won't work with cable unplugged, just an FYI

isal...@nospam.gmail.com (Ian S. Salisbury) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:34:18 UT

Dave wrote:
TiVo lets you play recorded shows without service, as do the DirecTV
TiVo DVR.
The new DirecTV DVR (HR-21) does not.

Re: Doorbell always uses electricity!

cl...@snyder.on.ca — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:30:53 UT

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:38:04 -0600, The Daring Dufas
I've got 3 different ones floating around - 12, 16, and 24 volts AC.
(They would work just as well on lower voltage DC)