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  <title type="text">misc.consumers.frugal-living Google Group</title>
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  Practicing a frugal lifestyle.
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  <updated>2009-07-06T22:52:22Z</updated>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>phil scott</name>
  <email>p...@philscott.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T22:52:22Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9f245bb3af01a8d1/b710577b6e51bf21?show_docid=b710577b6e51bf21</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: errr...we find the rapid transit ticket takers in the SF bay area getting 75k base pay and 45k in perks... pluss another 50k or so in overtime...and now demanding a raise or they will strike.</title>
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  errr thanks for the reference on Batra&#39;s other predilections and &lt;br&gt; remarks, I notice much of his &lt;br&gt; work doent even mention Kondraitev&#39;s long cycle 260 years... his &lt;br&gt; book the comming depression 1990 however &lt;br&gt; is largely devoted to the long cycle as put forward by Kondratiev... &lt;br&gt; (rightly or wrongly)... it is that reference
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Brent</name>
  <email>tetraethylleadremovet...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T22:40:21Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/abfc72bea14a522b/018d0088856900a3?show_docid=018d0088856900a3</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/abfc72bea14a522b/018d0088856900a3?show_docid=018d0088856900a3"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Why have 3,000 cars been abandoned at Dubai Airport?</title>
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  Maddoff isn&#39;t a debtor, he&#39;s a fraudster. (oddly enough the same sort of &lt;br&gt; fraud that the US federal government runs, but we&#39;re not supposed to &lt;br&gt; notice that)
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Michael Coburn</name>
  <email>mik...@verizon.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T22:08:23Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9f245bb3af01a8d1/60f9cfe72b389a5b?show_docid=60f9cfe72b389a5b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9f245bb3af01a8d1/60f9cfe72b389a5b?show_docid=60f9cfe72b389a5b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: errr...we find the rapid transit ticket takers in the SF bay area getting 75k base pay and 45k in perks... pluss another 50k or so in overtime...and now demanding a raise or they will strike.</title>
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  This is a very misleading sort of half smart assessment. One of the &lt;br&gt; biggest errors is in using the usual Republican method of only counting &lt;br&gt; certain kinds of taxes and even using aggregates as opposed to per &lt;br&gt; capital numbers. But the main thing --- the big 1000 pound elephant in &lt;br&gt; the middle of the room --- is the affect of population density on
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  <author>
  <name>Bay Area Holdout</name>
  <email>linea...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T21:12:17Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9f245bb3af01a8d1/014866feec6b1587?show_docid=014866feec6b1587"/>
  <title type="text">Re: errr...we find the rapid transit ticket takers in the SF bay area getting 75k base pay and 45k in perks... pluss another 50k or so in overtime...and now demanding a raise or they will strike.</title>
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  news:0fc4f433-f54a-4d38-9e21- &lt;br&gt; you quote only 3 states, yet you miss all the others. i wonder if any &lt;br&gt; of the 43 out of 50 states, perhaps are low tax, low regulation &lt;br&gt; conservative paradises:) &lt;br&gt; yes your response was amazing:) &lt;br&gt; If they are doing better than California, New York and New Jersey...yes they
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Sanity</name>
  <email>san...@bellsouth.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T20:56:47Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/abfc72bea14a522b/ebdd7449d9b49c02?show_docid=ebdd7449d9b49c02"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Why have 3,000 cars been abandoned at Dubai Airport?</title>
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  &amp;quot;Ted &amp;quot;I survived Chappaquiddick&amp;quot; Kennedy&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;TedKennedyMurderedHisPregnant Mistress.dwp...@spamgourmet.co m&amp;gt; wrote in &lt;br&gt; message &lt;br&gt; I&#39;m not stupid enough to vote for a career politician who campaigns on &lt;br&gt; the false premise of &amp;quot;change.&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; I survived Bush/Cheney and their cohorts, I can survive anything.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Michael Coburn</name>
  <email>mik...@verizon.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T20:56:07Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9f245bb3af01a8d1/71d4cfbf34a3772e?show_docid=71d4cfbf34a3772e"/>
  <title type="text">Re: errr...we find the rapid transit ticket takers in the SF bay area getting 75k base pay and 45k in perks... pluss another 50k or so in overtime...and now demanding a raise or they will strike.</title>
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  I am not offended. Have you ever talked with Mr. Batra? I have. &lt;br&gt; You are cherry picking to support your own particular view. The stuff &lt;br&gt; you are citing is from &amp;quot;The Great Depression of 1990&amp;quot; (pp31-35) &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://kenketchum.tripod.com/newyorkchristianlawlibrary/id4.html&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; And there is no real cyclic nature to this stuff as expressed in years,
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>The Real Bev</name>
  <email>bashley101...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T20:25:06Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/52517b60c8fa2f15/cacea2416ec3d842?show_docid=cacea2416ec3d842</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/52517b60c8fa2f15/cacea2416ec3d842?show_docid=cacea2416ec3d842"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Snake bite deaths highest in Sri Lanka</title>
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  This was the most useful, informative and above all RELEVANT post so far today.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>phil scott</name>
  <email>p...@philscott.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T19:43:14Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: rapid transit ticket takers in the SF bay area getting 75k base pay and 45k in perks...</title>
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  the national mess is common to all players.... mfg sent off shore, &lt;br&gt; killed what was left of the tax base &lt;br&gt; as the baby boomers are now retiring (50% of the current work force &lt;br&gt; btw) making the situation &lt;br&gt; limitlesssly worse. &lt;br&gt; The bogus securities mess, the ruined the credit and borrowing market &lt;br&gt; on which we in US had been depending
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>phil scott</name>
  <email>p...@philscott.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T19:35:28Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9f245bb3af01a8d1/9afb8c4b609d6c76?show_docid=9afb8c4b609d6c76"/>
  <title type="text">Re: errr...we find the rapid transit ticket takers in the SF bay area getting 75k base pay and 45k in perks... pluss another 50k or so in overtime...and now demanding a raise or they will strike.</title>
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  ok, michael, this has to terminate our discussion since Batra did &lt;br&gt; write the book &lt;br&gt; on this theory that he wrote the book about naturallly, of &lt;br&gt; course,subscribes to. &lt;br&gt; sorry to have offended you &lt;br&gt; Phil scott
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ted I survived Chappaquiddick Kennedy</name>
  <email>tedkennedymurderedhispregnantmistress.dwp...@spamgourmet.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T19:35:08Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/abfc72bea14a522b/b0ac497809da4c94?show_docid=b0ac497809da4c94"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Why have 3,000 cars been abandoned at Dubai Airport?</title>
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  You&#39;re retarded. Clinton &amp;amp; Bush Sr. devastated a large number of local &lt;br&gt; manufacturing facilities in their tenures, all the while the rest of &lt;br&gt; the nation looked away like nothing was going on. &lt;br&gt; Which is why I&#39;m GLAD this country is failing the way it is. Perhaps &lt;br&gt; utter devastation to the majority&#39;s standard of living will FINALLY
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rod Speed</name>
  <email>rod.speed....@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T19:33:24Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9f245bb3af01a8d1/fd4e2e2cf6090b7a?show_docid=fd4e2e2cf6090b7a"/>
  <title type="text">Re: errr...we find the rapid transit ticket takers in the SF bay area getting 75k base pay and 45k in perks... pluss another 50k or so in overtime...and now demanding a raise or they will strike.</title>
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  How odd that you cant list even a SINGLE example of &lt;br&gt; anything like that in say the last 500 years in the west. &lt;br&gt; How odd that you cant list even a SINGLE example of &lt;br&gt; anything like that in say the last 500 years in the west. &lt;br&gt; Yes, but they did NOT see anything like &#39;total collapse ensues, not a 10 &lt;br&gt; year depression, but 50 to 100 years of near or total starvation ensue&#39;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ted I survived Chappaquiddick Kennedy</name>
  <email>tedkennedymurderedhispregnantmistress.dwp...@spamgourmet.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T19:31:03Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/abfc72bea14a522b/b1ab66432705b0b1?show_docid=b1ab66432705b0b1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Why have 3,000 cars been abandoned at Dubai Airport?</title>
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  I&#39;m not stupid enough to vote for a career politician who campaigns on &lt;br&gt; the false premise of &amp;quot;change.&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;Hope&amp;quot; you&#39;ll have some &amp;quot;change&amp;quot; left when this shit is over. LMAO.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rod Speed</name>
  <email>rod.speed....@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T19:20:32Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2ea2bed12c70f689/f399245c44058718?show_docid=f399245c44058718</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2ea2bed12c70f689/f399245c44058718?show_docid=f399245c44058718"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A tricky shared letter that shows no preference</title>
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  Just because some fool claims something, doesnt make it gospel. &lt;br&gt; And that possibility is trivially avoidable by having a para that says &lt;br&gt; that the other two individuals are getting exactly the same letter. &lt;br&gt; Or a para that says that the other two individuals are getting exactly the same letter.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rod Speed</name>
  <email>rod.speed....@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T19:11:56Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/abfc72bea14a522b/bc6b15f700e209a6?show_docid=bc6b15f700e209a6</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/abfc72bea14a522b/bc6b15f700e209a6?show_docid=bc6b15f700e209a6"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Why have 3,000 cars been abandoned at Dubai Airport?</title>
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  N8N wrote &lt;br&gt; Not really, essentially because the manufacturers who want to be able &lt;br&gt; to sell cars in the US have already ensured that they comply with those. &lt;br&gt; Sure, there certainly are a few obscure cars that cant be used in the US &lt;br&gt; but its unlikely that too many of those have been abandoned at Dubai airport.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rod Speed</name>
  <email>rod.speed....@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-07-06T19:03:59Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/abfc72bea14a522b/971dd079a4122dc3?show_docid=971dd079a4122dc3</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com./group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/abfc72bea14a522b/971dd079a4122dc3?show_docid=971dd079a4122dc3"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Why have 3,000 cars been abandoned at Dubai Airport?</title>
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  Cindy Hamilton wrote &lt;br&gt; Thats just plain wrong. The most obvious control over businesses is interest rates. &lt;br&gt; They clearly are for the mess that california is currently in. &lt;br&gt; And for the complete implosion of the entire world financial system too. &lt;br&gt; No it hasnt. &lt;br&gt; Bet it doesnt either.
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